tag:blogger.com,1999:blog-5539995.post115702727156047495..comments2023-11-05T17:53:13.405+08:00Comments on Singabloodypore: Singapore Justice System Tested by Falun Gong TrialUnknownnoreply@blogger.comBlogger32125tag:blogger.com,1999:blog-5539995.post-1157857233340360392006-09-10T11:00:00.000+08:002006-09-10T11:00:00.000+08:00expat@large said..."Totally triflingly NOT! That w...expat@large said...<BR/><BR/>"Totally triflingly NOT! That was sarcasm, pure and simple." <BR/>___________________<BR/><BR/>Nothing pure about it but certainly simple.<BR/><BR/>One out of two this time around isn't too baaad.<BR/><BR/>Goblok is improving. ;-) <BR/><BR/>AGAnti-Goblokhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/03709954574242865656noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-5539995.post-1157767838044533832006-09-09T10:10:00.000+08:002006-09-09T10:10:00.000+08:00I don't necessarily want to get into a discussion ...I don't necessarily want to get into a discussion about Tom Cruise and his Scientology, but I certainly agree with Tom Cruise on his views about shrinks (interpret ---> IMH) and their quack medicine ... avoid at all costs. If you need something to soothe your nerves, write everything you hate about PAPa Lee.<BR/><BR/>I've personally been through the Singapore justice system as had CSJ, JBJ, TLH, FS and countless others (if they will tell their tales). M Ravi must be a near-extinct member of his profession. How long can he possibly last?Anonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-5539995.post-1157555552907808892006-09-06T23:12:00.000+08:002006-09-06T23:12:00.000+08:00Totally triflingly NOT! That was sarcasm, pure an...Totally triflingly NOT! That was sarcasm, pure and simple.expat@largehttps://www.blogger.com/profile/01250623536121293636noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-5539995.post-1157478611962103872006-09-06T01:50:00.000+08:002006-09-06T01:50:00.000+08:00> In defining Pidgin to those other readers for wh...> In defining Pidgin to those other readers for whom English is not their first language and <BR/>> think of Pidgins as something to make soup with, I was performing a mere trifling curtesy, <BR/>> common enough to those of good breeding and private school education in foreigner countries.<BR/><BR/>Am I allowed to read the above as a trifle patronising without being accused of conjuring up a strawman? <BR/><BR/>AGAnti-Goblokhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/03709954574242865656noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-5539995.post-1157461954755817472006-09-05T21:12:00.000+08:002006-09-05T21:12:00.000+08:00A-G: Not such a "straw man" argument I think. You...A-G: Not such a "straw man" argument I think. You said "too (troublesome)" [your translation]- I merely extrapolated this to a suggestion of laziness which was certainly implied in your statement. I hardly misrepresented your tone at all, and merely put that interpretation up for you to refute. Note the question mark. <BR/><BR/>Hook? Off.<BR/><BR/>Speaking of "straw man", you might refrain from it yourself if your are as averse to it as you profess. In defining Pidgin to those other readers for whom English is not their first language and think of Pidgins as something to make soup with, I was performing a mere trifling curtesy, common enough to those of good breeding and private school education in foreigner countries. That is hardly being critical of Singaporeans, yet you sarcastically imply I am suggesting they (you) are "poor" and "ignorant"! <BR/><BR/>That is outrageous! <BR/><BR/>I merely said you had no talent. In my particular profession I mean: gobloking. But obviously, I was misinformed. ;-)<BR/><BR/>It was JHU that the teacher was talking about, I believe. <BR/><BR/>E@Lexpat@largehttps://www.blogger.com/profile/01250623536121293636noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-5539995.post-1157453433353684262006-09-05T18:50:00.000+08:002006-09-05T18:50:00.000+08:00Hi expatrecently changed the setting which didn't ...Hi expat<BR/><BR/>recently changed the setting which didn't cover the early comments. I am receiving a rediculous level of spam comments.<BR/><BR/>And I would have to confirm the statement regarding education in Singapore as "unworkably unprofessional" a fair assessment of the situation in my professional opinion. I worked for a private school with many teachers as friends and the general conclusion was a lot less flattering.dfgdhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/04890467678463833210noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-5539995.post-1157441247621825362006-09-05T15:27:00.000+08:002006-09-05T15:27:00.000+08:00"right. Anonymity is just a symptom, laziness is t..."right. Anonymity is just a symptom, laziness is the actual disease?"<BR/><BR/>Let's not use a straw-man. I did not say the above. <BR/><BR/>"(It IS a pidgin - a unique and interesting mixture of local dialects and the official language.)"<BR/><BR/>Thank you for that explanation. Whatever will we poor, ignorant Singaporeans do without you. :-)<BR/><BR/>"p.p.s. This foreigner (ai-yah, why so US and THEM?) is not in Dufusapore because there is no talent here. There isn't, but that's not why I am here.<BR/><BR/>Is Head Office one."<BR/><BR/>You dirty rotten scoundrel you! You speak excellent Singlish!<BR/><BR/>Good to have a foreign voice in these parts. Even if it's a little goblok sometimes.. ;-)<BR/><BR/>Pay no attention to these xenophobic "them and us" spiel. <BR/><BR/>You get buffoons everywhere.<BR/><BR/>Heard of the genius Shrub who bankrupted the state of Texas? <BR/><BR/>Anti-GoblokAnti-Goblokhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/03709954574242865656noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-5539995.post-1157440098190458142006-09-05T15:08:00.000+08:002006-09-05T15:08:00.000+08:00p.p.s. This foreigner (ai-yah, why so US and THEM?...p.p.s. This foreigner (ai-yah, why so US and THEM?) is not in Dufusapore because there is no talent here. There isn't, but that's not why I am here. <BR/><BR/>Is Head Office one.expat@largehttps://www.blogger.com/profile/01250623536121293636noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-5539995.post-1157439523540604522006-09-05T14:58:00.000+08:002006-09-05T14:58:00.000+08:00Yuen: so what? (All religious people are nutters ...Yuen: so what? (All religious people are nutters in my book actually...) But we are talking about something beyond the persecution of any particular group. They could be Nazi prisoners of war, they could Khmer rouge genocidists, they could be pro-democracy students, they could be Tom Cruise and his Scientologists, they could be Muslims, they could be Christians, they could be Jews, they could be the mentally retarded, they could be seditious bloggers... <BR/><BR/>Who they are is not the point. <BR/><BR/>They could be you next, they could be me next is the point.<BR/><BR/>There's absolutely no excuse on this earth that can sanction a government allowing it's military health machine to chop healthy people up and sell their body parts for profit. <BR/><BR/>It's just evil to the n'th bloody degree.<BR/><BR/>~~~~~~~~<BR/><BR/>However, I am very pro stem-cell research. Go figure.<BR/><BR/>~~~~~~~~<BR/><BR/>Anti-goblok: right. Anonymity is just a symptom, laziness is the actual disease? Do I have that right. Lol! I don't read Singlish blogs or articles or even comments because a) they are obviously aimed at a certain closed and exclusive readership and b) I can't. I'm only here in Dufusapore (can i claim that?) for 4mths of the any given year, and work with English, Japanese and Mandarin speakers. The rest of the time people around me speak Thai, Vietnamese, Hindi, Arabic, you name it... We speak English in the office, and I don't have a local girlfriend so I haven't needed to learn this town's particular pidgin. (It IS a pidgin - a unique and interesting mixture of local dialects and the official language.)<BR/><BR/>P.S. Word from people in certain international schools who left Dufusapore is that many of the promises made by Govt to lure them to this fair little island hub were so much hot air. Govt failed to deliver in a multitude of areas, in a plethora of ways. It was just unworkably unprofessional, I was told. Can't elaborate any more, it was just dinner table gossip from someone I believe was an ex-teacher there.expat@largehttps://www.blogger.com/profile/01250623536121293636noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-5539995.post-1157432319003337542006-09-05T12:58:00.000+08:002006-09-05T12:58:00.000+08:00falungong is not a benigh group; it makes health c...falungong is not a benigh group; it makes health claims discouraging people from seeking medical attention and promises eternal life (and one of its own leaders died recently following this advice), and when reporters criticized this, the leaders incited followers to gang up and attack the newspaper offices; after a few thousand of their members suddenly appeared outside the party leaders' residential compound in day, a peaceful demo but with quite menacing implications, the party leaders decided to suppress it; <BR/><BR/>the cult can afford all those free newspapers and books given to people all over the place; its living buddha leader had no difficulty migrating to USA; anyone who thinks falungong is a weak, helpless group has merely fallen for its propagandayuenhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/01662790978561881993noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-5539995.post-1157429997221963572006-09-05T12:19:00.000+08:002006-09-05T12:19:00.000+08:00expat@large said...I don't speak Singaporean pidgi...expat@large said...<BR/><BR/>I don't speak Singaporean pidgin so I have no idea what one of those anonymice people was saying about me several comments up. Something unflattering to do with color of my former hair, probably. As if it mattered.<BR/><BR/>...............................<BR/><BR/>*Goblok* is a colloquial expression for Dufus. It has nothing to do with your hair.<BR/><BR/>Anonymous posters do not always equal men who are mice. It's so lecheh (troublesome) to register and start up a Blogsite just so you can post a comment or two occasionally.<BR/><BR/>Hope this has cleared up the fog of pidgin-English entries.<BR/><BR/>Anti-GoblokAnti-Goblokhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/03709954574242865656noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-5539995.post-1157426735960505622006-09-05T11:25:00.000+08:002006-09-05T11:25:00.000+08:00I notice this sign at the bottom of the "leave you...I notice this sign at the bottom of the "leave your comment" box: This blog does not allow anonymous comments.<BR/><BR/>That doesn't seem to be working Steve.<BR/><BR/>~~~~~~~~~<BR/><BR/>Falun gong: good, bad or indifferent, crazy people, individuals seeking freedom of expression and faith - doesn't matter. <BR/><BR/>You don't isolate an really rather benign group, vilify them, persecute them, imprison them and select the healthy ones to be used as spare parts for rich Chinese and foreigners. <BR/><BR/>That's got nothing to do with Asian values all you anonymous cowards out there, it's just plain evil as humans can get. It can happen in any centrally organised country - China, Nazi Germany, Cambodia. The lesson of Nazi Germany is that anyone - you, me - anyone, can become acculturated to organisational murder. <BR/><BR/>And "Asian Values" as promulgated by Mr Mahatir a decade ago, before Asia became almost valueless, most "foriegners" interpreted to mean a laxity in morals generally and the absolute certainty that any politican can be bought. <BR/><BR/>I don't speak Singaporean pidgin so I have no idea what one of those anonymice people was saying about me several comments up. Something unflattering to do with color of my former hair, probably. As if it mattered.<BR/><BR/>E@Lexpat@largehttps://www.blogger.com/profile/01250623536121293636noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-5539995.post-1157391827029513242006-09-05T01:43:00.000+08:002006-09-05T01:43:00.000+08:00they should go to batam, like all the other organi...they should go to batam, like all the other organizationsyuenhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/01662790978561881993noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-5539995.post-1157376625174650552006-09-04T21:30:00.000+08:002006-09-04T21:30:00.000+08:00I think there should be a very large demo to prote...I think there should be a very large demo to protest on behalf of the Falung-gong movement to help educate the world about its practices.<BR/><BR/>The alternative is continued IGNORANCE by the general public of other teachings or practices.<BR/><BR/>If they are not afraid, why should they ban or prohibit them ??Anonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-5539995.post-1157297502462493502006-09-03T23:31:00.000+08:002006-09-03T23:31:00.000+08:00man you know nothing about asia, and you cant keep...man you know nothing about asia, and you cant keep up with the discussion; why do you bother to come here? just to feel good about your own superiority?Anonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-5539995.post-1157288225353027552006-09-03T20:57:00.000+08:002006-09-03T20:57:00.000+08:00so anon, i must learn asian values if i wish to w...so anon, i must learn asian values if i wish to work and life in singapore, ie spitting in the street, pushing and shoving if I want to get onto a bus orMRT, allowing my little son to piss in the street, generally rude and discourtious, never say thank you or please, thye list goes on. Singapore is a totally ignorant country, the singapore chinese claim everything they do is local culture, no chinese in Hong Kong and China are totally different. mrtorehvfew asian valuesAnonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-5539995.post-1157276348895184792006-09-03T17:39:00.000+08:002006-09-03T17:39:00.000+08:00I meant more than accepting minor annoyances; I me...I meant more than accepting minor annoyances; I meant they actually find authoritarianism quite useful, because they now have more authority to exercise than back home; however, they often run up against limitations they did not realize were there and cause major problems, some of which were reported in the news<BR/><BR/>NNI guy, for example, ignored medical ethics in conducting experiments on patients; JHU centre ignored ASTAR rules organizing its research operation; the business school matter please see past issue of Today; they all thought they could use their authority in the way they wanted, and the guys working under them did nothing to tell them otherwise - sounds familiar?Anonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-5539995.post-1157272531097549122006-09-03T16:35:00.000+08:002006-09-03T16:35:00.000+08:00anonymous 0700:15Yes, that is true. People usually...anonymous 0700:15<BR/><BR/>Yes, that is true. People usually adjust to "minor annoyances" so that the path to their "greater objective" is easier for them.<BR/><BR/>However if the state becomes the <I>intolerable monster</I> (according to Thomas Jefferson), then people will use their judgement to see if the "greater objective" is worth the putting up with state interference and curtailment of liberty.<BR/><BR/>So far, the S'pore state has not become intolerable — generally speaking. But is sure as hell can be a <I><B>fucking annonying pain in the arse</B></I> in many spheres of voluntary human activity.Ⓜatilah $ingapura⚠️https://www.blogger.com/profile/02652498247201967379noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-5539995.post-1157198850966751602006-09-02T20:07:00.000+08:002006-09-02T20:07:00.000+08:00read again, man, and look up the cases I citedread again, man, and look up the cases I citedAnonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-5539995.post-1157196682529913162006-09-02T19:31:00.000+08:002006-09-02T19:31:00.000+08:00"surprisingly as it may seen, foreigners pick up a..."surprisingly as it may seen, foreigners pick up authoritarian manners very quickly; in fact, many found the usual irksome restrictions on the exercise of power back home not present in the singapore system and feel liberated, and made the most of it"<BR/><BR/>Many foreigners? You did a poll?<BR/><BR/>Restricting exercise of power = more liberated?<BR/><BR/>That statement doesn't appear to make any sense.<BR/><BR/>Can you rephrase?<BR/><BR/>PeregrineAnonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-5539995.post-1157194815498038422006-09-02T19:00:00.000+08:002006-09-02T19:00:00.000+08:00surprisingly as it may seen, foreigners pick up au...surprisingly as it may seen, foreigners pick up authoritarian manners very quickly; in fact, many found the usual irksome restrictions on the exercise of power back home not present in the singapore system and feel liberated, and made the most of it<BR/><BR/>look up National Neuroscience Institute, Johns Hopkins, and NUS Business School... now think whether there are others not yet opened up for public view...Anonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-5539995.post-1157186535485745472006-09-02T16:42:00.000+08:002006-09-02T16:42:00.000+08:00"but foreign talent need to be educated to have as..."but foreign talent need to be educated to have asian values, so that they agree with me..."<BR/><BR/>________________<BR/><BR/>You sound like Rip Van Winkle, someone who has been asleep for way too long while the world passed you by.<BR/><BR/>Get a clue. It is you who have to change and accomodate them.<BR/><BR/>Learn to be bit more "untidy" and enjoy shows like "Crazy Horse" and soon ... Las Vegas type extravaganzas when the IRs are in full swing. <BR/><BR/>Wakey, wakey sleeping child.<BR/><BR/>PeregrineAnonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-5539995.post-1157150545887134322006-09-02T06:42:00.000+08:002006-09-02T06:42:00.000+08:00but foreign talent need to be educated to have asi...but foreign talent need to be educated to have asian values, so that they agree with me...Anonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-5539995.post-1157129402237260922006-09-02T00:50:00.000+08:002006-09-02T00:50:00.000+08:00Please don't run down our expat friends. Havent' y...Please don't run down our expat friends. Havent' you heard? They are now a sought after breed called *foreign talent*.<BR/><BR/>Get with the programme children.<BR/><BR/>PeregrineAnonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-5539995.post-1157102044280805042006-09-01T17:14:00.000+08:002006-09-01T17:14:00.000+08:00of course expats are goblok; that's why they have ...of course expats are goblok; that's why they have to leave their own county to make a dollar somewhere elseAnonymousnoreply@blogger.com