tag:blogger.com,1999:blog-5539995.post111408806600917947..comments2023-11-05T17:53:13.405+08:00Comments on Singabloodypore: The Infantile BlogosphereUnknownnoreply@blogger.comBlogger81125tag:blogger.com,1999:blog-5539995.post-1143229265486785702006-03-25T03:41:00.000+08:002006-03-25T03:41:00.000+08:00I might be lost, are your refering to Infantilism ...I might be lost, are your refering to <A HREF="http://www.adulteverything.net/ae/fetish-adult-baby/" REL="nofollow">Infantilism</A> ?Anonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-5539995.post-1132290010977104242005-11-18T13:00:00.000+08:002005-11-18T13:00:00.000+08:00U know I totally agree with you. Most of the blogs...U know I totally agree with you. Most of the blogs now are fully of useless verbal vomits. However having said that. I believe the blogosphere will evovle like it did with the other ealier web thingys. <BR/><BR/> Let's see where the journey will take us with blogs.<BR/><BR/>girlOf<BR/>girlofmay.blogspot.comAnonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-5539995.post-1116683554624768032005-05-21T21:52:00.000+08:002005-05-21T21:52:00.000+08:00"I mean if I were to say that all you Irish are a ..."I mean if I were to say that all you Irish are a bunch of twats I wouldn't really expect you to like it that much either would you?"<BR/><BR/>Actually I would say 'fair enough' we are. But then again I didn't refer to every Singaporean. I refered to the Two blogs. MrB and XX.dfgdhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/04890467678463833210noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-5539995.post-1116527029239120042005-05-20T02:23:00.000+08:002005-05-20T02:23:00.000+08:00Isn't this some kind of a baiting self-fulfilling ...Isn't this some kind of a baiting self-fulfilling prophecy thing? Just point to people, call the whole lot "infantile", and when they get upset, just pat yourself on the back and say, "qed". <BR/><BR/>I mean if I were to say that all you Irish are a bunch of twats I wouldn't really expect you to like it that much either would you?<BR/><BR/>You can go have a look at my xanga blog (at www.xanga.com/sieteocho) if you like. It's serious enough.<BR/><BR/>Say what you want about being infantile, it's also infantile if you go to a foreign country and you don't, so to speak, "get it". When I look at people like xiaxue I see the infantilism on the surface but I also see that it masks a certain social sophistication that I get the feeling that your mind isn't quite ready to get around yet. <BR/><BR/>It's not <I>all</I> about the surface, you know...7-8https://www.blogger.com/profile/13772775395041477772noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-5539995.post-1116464422712688322005-05-19T09:00:00.000+08:002005-05-19T09:00:00.000+08:00Hmm.. maybe we are infantile but at least that's o...Hmm.. maybe we are infantile but at least that's our true souls.. just like you being so damn sarcastic.. If you had a problem with it, go sue the government.. for protecting us too well.. I am such a baby, blaming it on the govt again.. but then again, you did said we are infantile.. :pJaschocolatehttps://www.blogger.com/profile/08282631101810121445noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-5539995.post-1115306328286666302005-05-05T23:18:00.000+08:002005-05-05T23:18:00.000+08:00This post and comments are truly humourous. The m...This post and comments are truly humourous. The man has his point. Stevie if perhaps you had used "embryonic" the entire texture of the issue would have changed. Now you're charged with reverse essentialist arguments and faced with the White Caucasian colonist siege mentality.<BR/><BR/>If Mr Brown had written a piece on the infantile blogosphere, all would smile and laugh at ourselves.<BR/><BR/>I am reminded of a scene from Coach Carter, the coach tells his team, if you call yourself a nigger, its hip and cool but if someone of another race calls the same to you, you take up arms.<BR/><BR/>XenoBoyxenoboysghttps://www.blogger.com/profile/00770241748512478978noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-5539995.post-1114674018294681572005-04-28T15:40:00.000+08:002005-04-28T15:40:00.000+08:00Sorry for getting into this late... But as a Singa...Sorry for getting into this late... But as a Singaporean, I simply must add my own opinion to the pile, screw the consequences (oh crap, I hear some stereotypes cracking in the audience).<BR/><BR/>First, a minor technical issue. Your question "Do Singaporean bloggers get annoyed, upset or deny the 'infantile' representation?" is a cheap low blow.<BR/><BR/>It is basically just another form of the old "Have you stopped beating your wife yet?" classic. Whatever answer we give (yes/no/huh?) earns us a shafting and you a smug look. Hell, if we respond, we appear annoyed or upset. If we deny, we appear PAP'ish. If we ignore, we are good little Singaporean sheep who don't know how to speak up for ourselves.<BR/><BR/>No-win situation. Or what we Singaporeans define in Singlish as a "Lan-lan" situation.<BR/><BR/>Get what I'm driving at yet? A proper non-biased question should be something like "Do Singaporean bloggers deserve the infantile representation?" Despite being an stereotypical Singaporean, Science-background male - with frameless spectacles no less - I know a biased question when I see one.<BR/><BR/>So ease up and take it easy on the insulting holier-than-thou words. We're fellow bloggers being asked for our feelings and opinions, not accused victims being questioned by a self-appointed prosecutor.<BR/><BR/>Next: My opinion on the young singaporean blogsphere.<BR/><BR/>Our country is relatively young, and it is only in recent years that certain tight-arsed restrictions have begun to be lifted. We grew up in a climate where words like "bitch" got censored from songs, and "A Spy who shioked me" was actually considered as a viable 'Asian-values' friendly alternative.<BR/><BR/>So we should be glad already that the major blogs you accuse of 'infantilism' actually do go into harder-hitting topics. Opinionated singaporeans do choose to express themselves despite the protests of a few 'lets keep silent' people.<BR/><BR/>IMHO, one doesn't need to fill an entire blog with political entries so as to appear serious and intellectual. One can be perfectly capable of thinking, having opinions and writing occasional posts about the "Big Stuff" while still cheerfully blogging about shoes, coffee, toilet paper, catching mosquitoes, or whatever.Anonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-5539995.post-1114508611308675262005-04-26T17:43:00.000+08:002005-04-26T17:43:00.000+08:00Hi Steve! Looks like you hit some raw nerves out t...Hi Steve! Looks like you hit some raw nerves out there. It is quite typical for most Singaporeans to be egoistic and not willing to acknowledge their mistakes and weaknesses. Just like the goverment. 'Like father, like son'.<BR/>I understand the feelings behind your comment and I salute you to provide alternative views on this little paranoid tropical island.Anonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-5539995.post-1114350547419027082005-04-24T21:49:00.000+08:002005-04-24T21:49:00.000+08:00well. too much professional whinging and whining o...well. too much professional whinging and whining out there.Anonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-5539995.post-1114348326947966342005-04-24T21:12:00.000+08:002005-04-24T21:12:00.000+08:00"Acting disdainful" i am not.With this island, i h..."Acting disdainful" i am not.<BR/>With this island, i have a love-hate relationship, just like everyone else who lives here. I love it for the administrative efficiency (albeit not all the time) & social security, but i hate it for it's sterile environment that suffocates me. And excuse me, but i'm not being unappreciative of the perks of being educated & working in Singapore; i'm merely commenting on the general attitude of the majority of singaporeans that i've come across as acquaintances or read abt from the media so far.Anonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-5539995.post-1114346209802659262005-04-24T20:36:00.000+08:002005-04-24T20:36:00.000+08:00steve, ignore this bunch of egoistic and close-min...steve, ignore this bunch of egoistic and close-minded "infantile" singaporeans who can't see the white side but only see the black side. I welcome your comments on singapore to help us see things in a wider perspectives. Not too worry, there're many other singaporeans who are more open-minded and more tolerable than this bunch of disgusted singaporeans. you have my support.<BR/><BR/>Honest singaporeanAnonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-5539995.post-1114326847526319182005-04-24T15:14:00.000+08:002005-04-24T15:14:00.000+08:00a couple of points;the appeal of the personal log ...a couple of points;<BR/><BR/>the appeal of the personal log (the online journal, otherwise wrongly called a blog), is that joe nobody can write whatever is it he feels like writing, "publish" is on the internet, and pretend like anyone actually cares.<BR/><BR/>sure. every once in a while, you might stumble upon someone who writes something worth reading; an intellectual, faux or otherwise.<BR/><BR/>sure. there might be a lot more "serious" blogs out there, compared to here in singapore. then again, singapore's online population is barely a drop in the sea that is the world wide web.<BR/><BR/>if you're looking for some serious socio-political commentary, i'd suggest you look to the pages of the IHT or the AWSJ; both reputable and reasonably white publications, quite seperate from the infantile, fascists you might read online.<BR/><BR/>your post on infantilism is in itself, sheer infantilism. you wouldn't look for foie gras at mcdonalds would you?<BR/><BR/>and if you did, it wouldn't be terribly mature of you to demand that which is obviously unattainable.<BR/><BR/>i think the true child in this situation is the expat outcast, thrown into an asian backwater, and who then bemoans the lack of intelligentsia.<BR/><BR/>perhaps if you had shown a little more promise, you'd be in that corner office , safely tucked away in the northern hemisphere.<BR/><BR/>but since you aren't, permit me my own few childish cents.<BR/><BR/>cry. more. n00b.Anonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-5539995.post-1114323895069795142005-04-24T14:24:00.000+08:002005-04-24T14:24:00.000+08:00Hi Steven. Here are my comments on this issue. All...Hi Steven. Here are <A HREF="http://duh41.blogspot.com/2005_04_17_duh41_archive.html#111415636170739835" REL="nofollow">my comments</A> on this issue. All the best.D Thttps://www.blogger.com/profile/14933989666074884280noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-5539995.post-1114321077365100162005-04-24T13:37:00.000+08:002005-04-24T13:37:00.000+08:00MalaysianinSingapore, how about being appreciative...MalaysianinSingapore, how about being appreciative that you're being offered perks and such by our govt instead of coming here, earning your fill, and acting disdainful? Surely there is some merit about a small dot being able to treat you better than your own country in terms of a good SOL? <BR/><BR/>And it's not so much that Steve is a foreigner, it's his derisive tone, and his need to inflict a ridiculous hypothesis on us, which is generating this spike in his readership and commenting.Anonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-5539995.post-1114319144398523392005-04-24T13:05:00.000+08:002005-04-24T13:05:00.000+08:00Wait till you see Singapore/ Taiwan/ HK/ Korean/ J...Wait till you see Singapore/ Taiwan/ HK/ Korean/ Japanese variety show... then you will truly know the meaning of Asian 'Infantilism'. Maybe Singapore blogs is very easy to pick because most of it are in English.<BR/><BR/>I do not care if we are infantile ...bleh bleh bleh, I pride in being in such a society. It beats being in a boring ivory tower society with stoic people boring the hell out of me.<BR/><BR/>JAnonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-5539995.post-1114317728905642102005-04-24T12:42:00.000+08:002005-04-24T12:42:00.000+08:00(McDermott)Singabloodypore's observation hit a raw...(McDermott)Singabloodypore's observation hit a raw nerve within the Singapore blogosphere primarily for two reasons: first is that the observation came from an Ang Moh, and secondly, there is the harsh connotation that the word "infantile" evokes.<BR/><BR/>The fact is that Steve has identified a significant segment of the blogging community possessing certain unflattering characteristics which merit further exploration within the blogosphere itself, yet the diatribe is destined to be buried in an avalanche of defense mechanism postings precisely because of the above two reasons cited.<BR/><BR/>Stripped of the emotionalism inherent in bruised ego knee-jerk reactions, let us suppose the remarks were made by a Singaporean and in lieu of the "infantile" label, let us say that the commentator had used "generation-xx" or whatever label is acceptable for the singled-out segment. Would that still have invalidated the observations made regarding the existence of such a significant segment exhibiting certainly verifiable properties?<BR/><BR/>The Jester hold's the magic mirror in front of the Queen who asks "Who's the fairest one of all?" If the Queen can't accept the mirror's answer, does it mean, that the court Jester forfeits his head? Looks more like the Queen prefers to bury her head in the sand instead!Anonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-5539995.post-1114316101344766842005-04-24T12:15:00.000+08:002005-04-24T12:15:00.000+08:00From one academic wannabe to another academic wann...From one academic wannabe to another academic wannabe:<BR/><BR/>For someone who purports to have lectured Research Methodology at the undergraduate level, your thesis truly astonishes me. SURELY after that vaunted career of yours u could come up with a more original theory? Funny how in academia, nobody will take u seriously unless you've got a 50,000 word dissertation backing your sweeping statements up, and here you are making a sweeping statement while conveniently posing as an academic. Are your explicitly- flaunted & lengthy credentials supposed to lend credibility to your constipated social observations?<BR/><BR/>Tsk Tsk. You're gonna have to do better than inflict vocabulary on unsuspecting readers. <BR/><BR/>Sincerely yours<BR/>Vivien Won<BR/>BA(Merit)<BR/>B.SSci Sociology (Hons)<BR/>M.SSci Sociology<BR/>Shall i go on....? I fear I'll start boring you =)Julienhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/01257361297264289160noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-5539995.post-1114315530005754762005-04-24T12:05:00.000+08:002005-04-24T12:05:00.000+08:00Kelvin: Many expats & foreign workers are working ...Kelvin: Many expats & foreign workers are working in singapore because of the perks <B>your</B> government offers us - a PR status right after graduation from certain polytechnics and local universities. Given such an opportunity to earn the singapore dollar and spend it back home in ringgit at more than twice the numerical salary earned, everyone would jump on the bandwagon, esp after their singaporean education, no? <BR/>It's only human nature to tap into the currency advantage. If not, why do singaporeans flock to JB for cheap food & household shopping (think rows and rows of toilet paper squeezed into the family 7-seater) every weekend and public holiday? Think abt that. It's only human nature. <BR/>As for the lack in intellectual maturity, i've studied & lived in singapore for many years, and i do have many sg'rean friends who score rather high on their IQ. But being intelligent doesn't equate to having a voice to speak up. Most are just contented with what the government is doing, even when the GST and income tax was escalated. Any sign of protest? NO. "Because the government said it's good for the economy".<BR/>But let's not digress. Note that we're talking about bloggers in particular here. I'm not so confident of the population behind The Singapore Blogsphere Infantilism. There are only a handful of s'pore bloggers manage to get readership <B>not</B> because of their singlish or poppycock, such as Wannabe Lawyer. While it may be unfair to generalize due to a younger age group being majority of sg'rean bloggers, i'm appalled at bloggers like Dick who posted his sexual fantasies online. They're leaning very close to being perverse. Others just seem to wallow in self pity or blog about mundane things because "there's nothing they can do about govenment policies". Really? Maybe they're just too comfortable with their boring but safe way of life.<BR/><I>Probably the ‘infantilism’ that persist in the majority of Singaporeans is because the education system is designed in such a way to mould the Singaporean to not think beyond their basic needs.</I><BR/><BR/>This is exactly what i was driving at.Anonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-5539995.post-1114302228871942842005-04-24T08:23:00.000+08:002005-04-24T08:23:00.000+08:00I wrote a fairly long post further analysing your ...I wrote a fairly long post further analysing your personality but then I've just deleted it.<BR/><BR/>Not very nice of me to "expose" you any further in front of your audience. :)<BR/><BR/>I'll just say this:<BR/><BR/>Steven, you're not just a Enneagram Type 1. You're also a Myer-Briggs INFJ. Expect your good intentions to be misconstrued; because INFJs are complex and you WILL be regularly misconstrued. But at the same time, watch your own vindictive streak - now, now, don't deny it, all INFJs have a vindictive streak - it's a pointless waste of your own energy and time.GKhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/02777348172285774616noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-5539995.post-1114301547531190802005-04-24T08:12:00.000+08:002005-04-24T08:12:00.000+08:00This comment has been removed by a blog administrator.GKhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/02777348172285774616noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-5539995.post-1114263425916979812005-04-23T21:37:00.000+08:002005-04-23T21:37:00.000+08:00Steve, haven't you seen those that ~*^[tYpE tHiS w...Steve, haven't you seen those that <B>~*^[tYpE tHiS wAy]^*~</B>, with winks like this <B>(-_-''')</B>. what's their classification?<BR/><BR/>granted that blogging is much more prevalent among teenagers, it's hard to find convincingly 'mature' blogs.<BR/><BR/>mr brown may not write much 'serious issues', but his play and puns of words has illuminated the psyche of the average Singaporean.Anonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-5539995.post-1114258103870666222005-04-23T20:08:00.000+08:002005-04-23T20:08:00.000+08:00I mean the guy asked for counter-arguments, not va...I mean the guy asked for <I>counter-arguments</I>, not validation!Anonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-5539995.post-1114257832053966682005-04-23T20:03:00.000+08:002005-04-23T20:03:00.000+08:00Let's stay on topic here, shall we? I believe the ...Let's stay on topic here, shall we? <BR/><BR/>I believe the topic is "quare: infantile blogosphere?" or "do Singaporeans speak out seriously?", not "Steve you suck" or "Singapore you suck".<BR/><BR/>Hurling insults just makes you sound... well, infantile. As a comment on mr brown's blog reads: <BR/><BR/><I>Will you pause and reflect for a moment? Aren't your responses confirming that 'infantile' mindset? Please, you are writing for the world to read, I am truly embarrassed by such emotionally-charged reactions to a matter-of-fact post. They do not do justice to the rest of us Singaporeans. - embarrassed</I><BR/><BR/>Come now. I've faith we're better than this!Anonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-5539995.post-1114256226086172292005-04-23T19:37:00.000+08:002005-04-23T19:37:00.000+08:00Steve, for a non-Singaporean criticising us for wr...Steve, for a non-Singaporean criticising us for writing "subintelligentsia nonesense",and intending to write an authoritative paper on Singapore's blogosphere, you have worrying command of the English language. <BR/><BR/>Were/Are you aware that it's spelt "nonsense"? And your punctuation leaves much to be desired. <BR/><BR/>A lot of us infantiles do not possess great writing skills, but it seems that for many professionally written sociology papers, good writing skills are a basic prerequisite.Anonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-5539995.post-1114253729208396982005-04-23T18:55:00.000+08:002005-04-23T18:55:00.000+08:00was close to tears when i read this article. final...was close to tears when i read this article. finally someone with some sense and not of the join-the-crowd phenomenon.<BR/><BR/>i've been blogging since 2001 and its rather disheartening to see the local scene not grow up at all. in fact, it was way mature back then.<BR/><BR/>great rant. loved it.jerhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/17803733812567490872noreply@blogger.com